r/memes Oct 17 '21 Silver 14 Helpful 24 Wholesome 19 Hugz 17

The ultimate loophole.

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u/JackCooper_7274 Oct 17 '21 Helpful

yeah, so in case anyone is wondering, if there is .5 grams or less of sugar per serving in something, the company is allowed to call it sugar free. the serving size on tic tacs is one tic tac, and tic tacs are between .5 and .6 grams each. this means they can be 90% sugar, and still legally call themselves sugar free.

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u/FlyingCoconut204 Oct 17 '21 Helpful

They should probably change it so that it’s a percentage not a fixed value

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u/Dman1791 Oct 17 '21

Should be both. Less than 0.5 grams AND not more than 1% sugar by weight in order to advertise as sugar-free. Because otherwise you'd get the opposite problem where you could market large things with a bit of sugar in them as sugar free, just because the sugar is a small part of the whole.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21

"Sugar free glazed ham!"

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u/Substantial-Cup6943 Oct 17 '21

First, let’s steam our hams to get that ham nice and warm to soak up the glaze nicely

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u/Cessnaporsche01 Oct 17 '21

You call hamburgers steamed hams?

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u/Dexilles Oct 17 '21

Despite the fact that they are obviously grilled

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u/F1ndTheBook Oct 17 '21

H-huh, well you see...

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u/itsnotgingeritsbrown Oct 17 '21

Scuse me for one second

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u/LuckyDuck4 Oct 17 '21

YYYYEEEAAAAAAUUUGGGHHH

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u/xJageracog Oct 17 '21

its a regional dialect

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u/ewdrive Oct 17 '21

Should soak it in rum first

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u/Santa_Hates_You Oct 17 '21

Rum is just the best version of sugar.

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u/lxkandel06 Oct 18 '21

God damn it frank, eating your drinks? That is genius

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u/squngy Oct 17 '21

In EU everything is always written both per portion and per 100g (which also gives you the percentage, since 5g is just 5% by weight)

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u/Helios575 Oct 17 '21

how about sugar free means no sugar?

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u/stunt_penguin Oct 17 '21

they'd then ask you to define sugar, then add some other carbohydrate.

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u/mindrover Oct 17 '21

There must already be a definition for sugar, since they have to list how many grams of sugar are in a serving.

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u/The_Flurr Oct 18 '21

More or less impossible to guarantee.

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u/takitza Oct 17 '21

Now that's a crazy thought

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u/IntelligentOlive7414 Oct 17 '21

people like you.... who mouth off without understanding what they're talking about at all...

i'm really not a fan of these types of people.

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u/scarablob Oct 17 '21

you're not making the right argument, because even if "sugar free" mean less than 0.5 gram of sugar, you still have to define what is "sugar" and what count as it. So changing from "less than 0.5 gram" to "no sugar at all" don't mean you have to change the chosen definition at all.

"Sugar free mean no sugar at all" really is dumb, but it's not because of definition of what "sugar" is, but rather because it's impossible to prove that there is no trace amount of the stuff in any part of the load of product you are producing.

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u/raymond8505 Oct 17 '21

What if we only let people advertise a thing as sugar free if it's entirely free of sugar

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u/DeadlyAlexander Oct 17 '21

That would be almost impossible to guarantee. Who wants to go through every cell or your food to make sure there aren’t any undigested sugars from its diet?

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u/raymond8505 Oct 17 '21

So just don't allow people to make the claim

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u/JessicalJoke Oct 17 '21

Then it's unproductive to people with dietary need to find items that are extremely low on sugar. Some molecules in an item that give it up to 5 calories is still better than an item that have 80.

You can make up another word for it if you want.

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u/raymond8505 Oct 17 '21

Like "low sugar"

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u/JessicalJoke Oct 18 '21

We could redefined it, but right now low sugar items on the shelves still have some calories. It's a tier separate from no sugar or zero calories items.

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u/Diels_Alder Oct 17 '21

The tic tac clause.

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u/bogglingsnog Oct 17 '21

That would require one iota of common sense

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u/FictionDragon Oct 17 '21

One thing about common sense, it's not so common.

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u/BrainPicker3 Oct 17 '21

Or that the term itself is so vague that its basically useless. If something were really common sense then it would not need to be described as such, as it would be known

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u/uhohlisa Oct 17 '21

My biology teacher always said common sense isn’t real. Because common sense would tell us that a table is solid, not mostly empty space

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u/FrankfurterWorscht Oct 17 '21

Politicians preparing the bill to change that law: "This baby can fit so many other laws in it"

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 18 '21

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u/nbagf Oct 17 '21

'Murcia: that sounds logical, lmao naw

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u/shader_m Oct 17 '21

the entire regulation and laws regarding this stuff is completely created by these companies. I just realized the delicious "Sparkling Ice" carbonated water drinks, that supposedly come with vitamins and is sugar/caffeine free.... has "added sugars" and whatever.

Theyre expensive too. you can get a knock off brand 2 liter of soda for 80 cents, and these 16 oz bottles are like $1 each. I meant to drink these things to ween myself off of sugars and caffeine but nope...

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u/themodgepodge Oct 17 '21

has "added sugars"

source? Everything I can find is 0g carb/0g sugar.

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u/SigmaGorilla Oct 17 '21

Just for the record the Sparkling Ice carbonated drinks really do have no sugar in them. The whole bottle is 5 calories after all.

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u/uhohlisa Oct 17 '21

It’s sugar free because it uses an artificial sweetener

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u/Uhnimates Oct 17 '21

Upvote's at 699 I'll come back when it changes

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u/WazzleOz Oct 17 '21

But then big sugar won't give our governments as much fucking money:((((((((

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u/kingofcould Oct 18 '21

And while they’re at it, make sure 3 cheetos can’t be a “full serving” to hide their trans fat

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u/Honest_Earnie Oct 18 '21

We should all - never buy tictacs again so the douche in marketing gets fired.

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u/BloodyPommelStudio Oct 17 '21

I wouldn't necessarily have a problem with that if the serving size was legit.

Take Tabasco for example, it's less than one calorie per tsp. Most people don't (and probably couldn't) use more than that so I've got no problem with it being advertised as zero calorie.

Nobody has just one tic-tac though, it's intentional false advertising.

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u/Cpt_Jigglypuff Oct 17 '21

You underestimate my love of Tabasco and other hot sauces. It’s my main source of calories.

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u/DerogatoryDuck Oct 17 '21

How do you sit down??

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u/handandfoot8099 Oct 17 '21

The skin toughens up/ignores the sensation eventually. Source: grew up liking spicy food, then moved to Louisiana a few years ago

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u/DerogatoryDuck Oct 17 '21

Oh no. The leather star.

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u/kiticus Oct 17 '21

With his pants around his ankles on a toilet seat, obviously.

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u/chaser676 Oct 17 '21

See, I really don't understand this reference despite seeing it all my life. I eat spicy foods day in and day out, never have had digestive issues or uncomfortable poops from it. Does it just happen if the rest of your diet is really bland?

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u/Picker-Rick memer Oct 17 '21

It should just be reported for what it is. Is there anybody not buying Tabasco because of that one calorie? Was anybody really standing in the store going oh shit it's got a calorie, maybe I'll try Frank's?

Would anybody put down tic tacs because they have two calories?

There shouldn't be any loopholes to jump through in the first place.

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u/Mddcat04 Oct 17 '21

A whole thing of tic tacs is ~75 calories, which is basically nothing. And who’s eating a whole box of them anyway?

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u/BlueButYou Oct 18 '21

Some of us are insane.

After I learned that I can control my weight tracking calories I got on it.

If tictacs were actually 0 calories (which they would be if they were sugar free, since they clearly have virtually 0 protein or fat), I’d eat probably ten boxes a day.

Even 75 calories a day is more than they’re worth. I actually aimed at -100/day for a year and lost 10 lbs that year (which the math works out perfectly for). 75 additional calories per day would have diminished my weight loss by 75%.

And I can eat a box of tictacs without even trying.

For a long time I was constantly looking for “cheat” foods (foods with fewer calories than they seemed like), but I found they don’t really exist. Some things, like chips, you can eat far more calories of, but there’s no real cheat food.

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u/bs000 Oct 17 '21

they never claim that they're sugar free though. it doesn't come up in the advertising ever. at most they say "less than 2 calories per serving". the nutritional information says 0g of sugar butt that's because under FDA rules all values have to be rounded for the sake of consistency and conciseness. they specify "less than 0.5g" right underneath.

the idea that the company is lying to you to sell tic tacs is an invention of social media trying to spark outrage for likes.

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u/guywasaghostallalong Oct 17 '21

The rule ought to be that below 1g, you have to round up and not down.

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u/hiddenemi Oct 17 '21

Cheers my dears!

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u/aoiN3KO Oct 17 '21

That should be criminal

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u/salami350 Oct 17 '21

This is why in Europe all nutritional info is legally required to be listed on a per 100 grams/100 mililiter basis. Avoids the whole arbitrary serving size issues.

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u/NSFWarioAccount Oct 17 '21

If that's the case then of a bag of sugar said it's serving size was one grain of sugar then that bag of sugar would be sugar free. Sugar free sugar

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u/velozmurcielagohindu Oct 17 '21

Those are rookie loopholes. They have to pump up their loopholes.

I'm eagerly awaiting the inevitable recipe of "sugar free tic tacs which contribute to a healthy immune system and cognitive functions" (Just add the minimum dose of magnesium and vit d in them)

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u/mces97 Oct 17 '21

Surprised no diabetics have sued them yet for messing up their glucose levels. Especially in sue happy America.

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u/Nik_692 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

Wait so 0.49 grams of sugar is sugar free? Considering per serving < 0.5 gram.

Edit: 0.49 grams*

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u/Gary1495 Oct 17 '21

0.5 grams, not 5 grams

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u/Nik_692 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 17 '21

Oh yeah fuck, didn't see the . lol

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u/GayKage010 Oct 17 '21

As a type 1 diabetic, this fuckin sucks. It also makes me think of what other thinvs get away with stuff like this

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u/escape00000 Oct 17 '21

Is there any truth to this?

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u/jicty Oct 17 '21

Yes, they are almost 90% sugar but labeled as sugar free.

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u/escape00000 Oct 17 '21

God, I hate corporate lobbying

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u/bambamba8 Oct 18 '21

That's not corporate lobbying it's just the Italian way of doing things

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u/bs000 Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

show me one ad or package of tic tacs where they claim they're sugar free (aside from tic tacs that use artificial sweeteners which are actually sugar free)

the nutritional information will say 0g butt they have to round it because of FDA rules. they specify "less than 0.5g" right underneath

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u/fightoffyrdemon Oct 17 '21

It's just the US just like who knows how many other stupid rules with no basis in fact (like the ridiculous egg thing)

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u/bs000 Oct 17 '21

what's the egg thing

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u/F_in_the_chat_boi Dirt Is Beautiful Oct 17 '21

Yes

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u/benjags Oct 17 '21

according to the french nutritional facts , 97.5% sugar, 0.48 grams per serving.

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u/Renrue Oct 17 '21

I don't know if Tic-Tac ever advertised to be "sugar-free," but they definitely report 0 grams of sugar per serving on their Nutrition Facts label.

In fact, they admit it themselves:

Tic Tac® mints do contain sugar as listed in the ingredient statement. However, since the amount of sugar per serving (1 mint) is less than 0.5 grams, FDA labeling requirements permit the Nutrition Facts to state that there are 0 grams of sugar per serving.

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u/weffy_ Oct 17 '21 Silver

Prince of Egypt was the best dreamworks movie ever

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u/chronotoast85 Oct 17 '21

Pulling that sheet back expecting to smash

Ultimately deciding "well, I'm already here"

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21

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u/Odd-Construction7894 Oct 17 '21

'Murica, where lying to consumers is expected.

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21

It’s been a while since I’ve seen this masterpiece of a movie. Hans Zimmer scored this film beautifully! Plus Jeff Goldblum voices a character so that’s a plus

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u/chronotoast85 Oct 17 '21

He voiced the brother in law I think? Gave me some proto-third wall break vibes...like the one character that would be like "oh you saw a burning bush? It is drought season..."

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u/SharpStealth Oct 17 '21

One of my favorite movie facts is that Ralph Fiennes voices Pharaoh, and he also played Voldemort in Harry Potter. He's got a decent singing voice.

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u/chronotoast85 Oct 17 '21

Me with headcannon that only allows for the Aladin soundtrack to represent the middle east," Arrrabiiiaaaan NiiiiIIIiiiiightssss, ..."

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u/salami350 Oct 17 '21

Imagine: Voldemort singing

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u/Natural-Drummer-4835 Oct 17 '21

Shrek wants to know your location

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u/MaStEr_MeLoN15243 Oct 18 '21

one is a masterpiece for being great at story-telling with a serious vibe and deep tale of two brothers

the other is a masterpiece for the exact opposite reasons

(though imo, kung fu panda is better than shrek... sorry I like it)

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u/YoungTaxReturnz Oct 17 '21

Deliver Us is such a bop need me a hardstyle remix

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u/mork0rk Oct 17 '21 edited Oct 17 '21

They're all absolute bangers. Deliver Us, Through heaven's eyes, The plagues, When you Believe. I think the weakest song is Martin Short and Steve Martin's song, and it's still really good. When You Believe won the Oscar for best original song.

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u/thatchers_pussy_pump Oct 17 '21

The plagues

Thus saith the lord. Hans Zimmer set the choir on fire!

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u/Altruistic_Mention_5 Oct 17 '21

It’s the best animated movie ever made, and i will die on that hill.

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u/Boudac123 Oct 17 '21

better than shrek?

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u/ElHage13 Oct 17 '21

better than shrek, same level as shrek 2

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u/D0n41dC Oct 17 '21

I always preferred Road to El Dorado

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u/Fragrant_Anxiety_118 Oct 18 '21

Both? Both is good.

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u/CookieFace999 Plays MineCraft and not FortNite Oct 17 '21

*Shrek

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u/oneshoein Oct 17 '21

Antz*

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u/IAlwaysOutsmartU Oct 18 '21

Buddy, just here to remember this is about the best DreamWorks movies, not the oldest ones.

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u/Alatato https://www.youtube.com/watch/dQw4w9WgXcQ Oct 17 '21

shrek

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u/Loveable_Hemorrhoid Oct 17 '21

I always loved the fact that there’s an “allowable maximum amount” of rat droppings in food. Unless your making it yourself completely from scratch, with your own ingredients, you don’t know what’s in it. Yet people use that as an excuse not to get vaccinated

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u/PillowTalk420 Oct 17 '21

When I make it myself, I can put as much rat droppings as I want!

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u/brb_coffee Oct 17 '21

"Wait a minute. You're not the guy who delivers the rat droppings!"

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u/ywg_handshake Oct 17 '21

A little, je ne sais quoi.

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u/SeaBrightStorm Oct 17 '21

But je sais quoi?

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u/IAlwaysOutsmartU Oct 17 '21

What? Please elaborate. I need to know more. In exchange I can make a meme for you. Just tell me more.

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u/Joss_Card Oct 17 '21

Yeah so because food cultivation and preparation are performed on such a large scale, it's impossible to completely eradicate all traces of insect carcasses and animal feces that may have contaminated the food at some point, either before growing, while it sat in storage, or while it was actually being manufactured. Obviously there's a lot of work that goes into ensuring the food is safe and clean, but you can't account for everything, so instead of the safe allowable limit to be zero (something that I highly doubt any human throughout history has been able to achieve, no matter how fastidious), but instead a very small amount that would still be completely safe for human consumption.

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u/Tanuki93 Oct 17 '21

Additionally, almost all of our food contains a small amount of mold :/

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u/[deleted] Oct 17 '21

Everything in the entire biosphere probably has mold on it somewhere. Or at least mold spores.

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u/snardcore Oct 17 '21

what do people think their skin's surface is like lmao??

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u/Tanuki93 Oct 17 '21

Really? I didn't know that! As gross as that is, I'm grateful for the opportunity to learn. Thank you!

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u/[deleted] Oct 18 '21

Wait till you find out about Anthrax

The spores of anthrax are able to survive in harsh conditions for decades or even centuries.[32] Such spores can be found on all continents, including Antarctica.[33] Disturbed grave sites of infected animals have been known to cause infection after 70 years.[34]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthrax

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u/Picker-Rick memer Oct 17 '21

Exactly, you think you're not breathing it in right now?

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u/Loveable_Hemorrhoid Oct 17 '21

I’ve read about it before and seen videos. Some things get very specific like 3 mg (of rodent shit) per pound or apparently wheat is an average of 9 droppings per kg.

source

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u/M4570d0n Oct 17 '21

Your coffee likely has cockroaches in it.

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u/Big-Refrigerator2260 Oct 17 '21

Lmao ingredients have those too. Only way to make sure is growing the ingredients yourself

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u/Loveable_Hemorrhoid Oct 17 '21

“Completely from scratch, with your own ingredients”

That’s what I said

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u/TurboFoetus Oct 17 '21

There's also acceptable amounts of blood puss and shit in milk

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u/IndianaGeoff Oct 17 '21

If you have seen cows, you understand the shit part. Those things are covered in it. I don't think it's possible for a cow to get down without finding a pile of shit to lay on.

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u/Consume_excrement Oct 17 '21

can confirm, i stacked cow hide in a warehouse, there were turds everywhere.

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u/tictak22 Karmawhore Oct 17 '21

Listen don’t be exposing our secrets

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u/C_Wade_H Oct 17 '21

Best movie ever. Best soundtrack ever

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u/Ok-Courage702 Oct 17 '21

I loved the prince of egypt!! So happy to see it being used as a meme format.

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u/NomNomInMyTumTum Oct 17 '21

'Murica, where lying to consumers is expected.

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u/Zealousideal_Snow_34 Oct 17 '21

There was some easy bake cake that wasn’t selling well in the 50s or 60s, so the company decided to add a single egg to the instructions on the box although for no reason. It boosted the sales because consumers felt more like they were participating or doing something besides dumping prepared shit into an oven.

Source: I honestly can’t remember and don’t feel like looking it up

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u/po_ta_to Oct 17 '21

They changed the box mix so it didn't have egg substitute in it.

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u/Hikari_Ruka Oct 17 '21

Or just lying in general.

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u/ArcanineFanYT Oct 17 '21

TicTac is an international brand, but you’re still not wrong

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u/Skromulator Oct 17 '21

The pan spray I used at my old job claimed to have nothing in it because the serving size was 1/6th of a second of spray

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u/NomNomInMyTumTum Oct 17 '21

Yeah, it's not just America but coming from Europe, I noticed a lot of deceiving labeling here. I don't remember TicTacs being labeled sugar-free where I'm from. I also noticed that in America, if they can't say anything good about a product, it gets labeled "Gluten Free". I've seen gluten free toothpaste... Seriously?!

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u/Adryzz_ Oct 17 '21

I mean if they make pizza flavored toothpaste i'll buy it.

gluten free toothpaste is like saying dirt free soap. The toothpaste is meant to remove sugars...

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u/theOneAndOnly_28 Oct 17 '21

In my country they market them as 2kcal per one

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u/herewefuckingoagain Oct 17 '21

yeah, but only measuring kcal per serving instead of a standardized 100g is pretty american

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u/j_sunrise Oct 17 '21

But in any other country, the nutrition label is "per 100g" (which for tic tacs is 97.5 g carbs, of which 97g are sugar, 397 cals)

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u/Alone-Newspaper-1161 Oct 17 '21

That’s about everywhere

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u/GreenJamesQQ Oct 17 '21

you misspelled China ;)

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u/Caesaropapismno Oct 17 '21

Por que no los dos?

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u/mog_knight Oct 17 '21

Nah. It's the metric system's fault. If we weighed tic-tacs in ounces we could report it.

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u/VirtualMage Oct 17 '21

America - Land of the greed, home of the selfish.

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u/NomNomInMyTumTum Oct 17 '21

Well, the people are mostly nice, just the political and corporate leadership is meh.

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u/Reberaptor Oct 17 '21

89% precent to be more exactly

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u/IwishIwasinStarWars Oct 17 '21

This format is gold

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u/NaturallyBlasphemous Oct 17 '21

I don’t agree with the Abrahamic religions, but Prince of Egypt is by far the most beautifully animated movie ever!

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u/ProbablyASithLord Oct 17 '21

Lol why would you phrase it like that? It’s like saying “I don’t believe in Greek mythology but I enjoyed clash of the titans”

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u/mrfolider Oct 17 '21

I don't agree with norse mythology, but Thor was cool in the MCU

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u/sonofnutcrackr Oct 17 '21

Why the fuck does Abraham Lincoln have his own religion?

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u/Hy3jii Oct 17 '21

I thought it was common knowledge. He famously told the south to let his people go and when they refused he threw down his stovepipe hat and it turned into a bunch of snakes.

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u/hieropotamus Oct 17 '21

Idk why you’re getting downvoted, this was funny

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u/MelodicFacade Oct 18 '21

I think some people probably thought he was serious, so they were r/whoosh -ed but also I understand, the bar is pretty low

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u/mindbleach Oct 17 '21

He doesn't.

He has four.

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u/anon-nemo Oct 17 '21

He's Honest Abe!

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u/zhiarlynn Oct 17 '21

You agree with other religions excluding abrahamic ones?

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u/mrfolider Oct 17 '21

Redditor is unable to praise film without expressing anti-religious views

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u/redzmangrief Oct 17 '21

It's so weird right?! "I'm not into norse theology but Thor was a masterpiece." "I don't agree with Greek mythology, but Hercules is Disney's best movie." "I'm not a Buddhist but I loved Mulan." Like it's just a weird thing to establish

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u/Victernus Oct 17 '21

Nobody's ever physically assaulted me because of their opinions on Greek mythology.

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u/thanosfrom2014 Oct 17 '21

Isn't sugar and other contents reported per 100gm.

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u/InsertBeanInAsshole Oct 17 '21

I'm sitting here eating TicTacs early in the morning, before I even brushed my teeth

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u/Jeffrey-50Moore Oct 17 '21

The one on the left, King 👑

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u/MoistDitto Oct 17 '21

Tiny sugar pills in small plastic boxes, great for everyone

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u/Myrtzie Oct 17 '21

As someone trying to give up sugar, this is distressing. I'll be forever reading labels. Today I made a Sugar Free (made with monk fruit sweetener) keto pumpkin spice bread. I read the label incorrectly: Turns out it has 0 sugar, but 11 grams sugar alcohols. 😭

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u/runninandruni Breaking EU Laws Oct 17 '21

Which is why altoids are better

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u/herewefuckingoagain Oct 17 '21

kcal per 100g ftw

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u/smallio Oct 17 '21

All I can think of is the blonde tic tac lady who would smile at the camera and say, "just one and a half calories."

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u/-chukui- Oct 17 '21

HEY I MEMBER! I MEMBER THE PRINCE OF EGYPT

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u/Carr0t_Slat Oct 17 '21

Yeah they really screwed my dad up when he got diagnosed with diabetes. Took us about a month to realize that the “0 carbs per container” Thing was pretty much just skirting the line of being a lie.

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u/ConanWoes Oct 17 '21

I tossed some chips on our kitchen scale and it showed 0g. Now I can eat all the chips I want.

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u/MasterRed92 Oct 17 '21

Me and my sister joke about the amount of calories in food by comparing them to tic tacs all the time. This pizza is 1800 calories? Well shit, that’s 900 tic tacs worth of pizza.

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u/litfaces Oct 17 '21

sugar free like free sugar for you, eventough its not free at all ..

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u/Sashiki Oct 17 '21

Let's be real, it's not like we eat just 1 serving of anything. Those damn can soups are always 2 servings and I eat the whole thing.

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u/Juice_ly Oct 17 '21

Here I was being naive, thinking it's ok to eat the whole pack at once because there's no sugar.

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u/NoAssociate6603 Oct 17 '21

Leave the tick tack alone... all the rest of that sugar free crap is way worse for you..

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u/save_video trans rights Oct 17 '21

Completely true, tastes like shit too

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u/NoAssociate6603 Oct 17 '21

yep ... I cant even handle the gum anymore. its just icky so tick tacks are all I have left..

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u/wonkey_monkey Oct 17 '21

Which is exactly why they're allowed to call it "sugar free" because it's less than 0.5g of sugar per serving.

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u/seksie_laydie Oct 17 '21

Sugar free? So is everyone gonna ignore the fact, that it fuckin TASTES SWEET?

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