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[OC] Countries that consume the most alcohol OC

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u/VShadowOfLightV 4d ago

See, I’m not an alcoholic because I live in the US and they’re not even on the chart

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u/GeneralMe21 4d ago

Damn it. USA is supposed to be number one at everything.

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u/Lucky7Ac 4d ago

That's because this is in liters, We don't drink liters of alcohol.

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u/Eefex 4d ago

Just cola.

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u/kappaway 4d ago

I don't want a large farva

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u/SlayerOfDougs 4d ago

I want a god damn liter cola

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u/Pawn_captures_Queen 4d ago

Hey Farva what's that place you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?

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u/taylorsaysso 4d ago

You mean Shenanigan's?

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u/ragnsep 4d ago

You mean Shenanigan's?

offers gun for a pistol whip

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u/bmxtiger 4d ago

Put that away!

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u/fied1k 4d ago

Does that look like spit to you?

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u/gmil3548 OC: 1 4d ago

Yeah and we’re first in ounces

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u/_SifuHotman 4d ago

I’ll start working on this immediately. I need volunteers. We’ll get to #1!

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u/OrdinRiff 4d ago

That's the American Spirit I know.

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u/GeneralMe21 4d ago

Come on USA. Stop eating your carbs and start drinking them.

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u/theClumsy1 4d ago

Weed consumption per capita is probably up there.

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u/exradical 4d ago

I know the Dutch have that stereotype but I def think America is the true king of weed

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u/mschley2 4d ago

As a proud Wisconsinite, I would like to see where our state ranks on this list. We're always at the top of every chart/study/ranking amongst US states.

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u/fookidookidoo 4d ago

We still don't make the chart. Which is nuts. We're at 11 liters.

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u/mschley2 4d ago

I need to move to eastern Europe. Those motherfuckers are crazy.

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u/km_j3825 4d ago

Time to go get some beers and do my part to get USA to #1

USA USA USA

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u/VShadowOfLightV 4d ago

Damn straight. Are you even patriotic if you don’t?

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u/Al_Kydah 4d ago

I really expected the US to all of a sudden appear and shoot to the top right at 2016

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

Something like 30% of American adults never drink. USA will never, ever make it on these lists. Pretty much all of Europe drinks more than the US does.

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u/reven80 4d ago

The alcohol consumption is very skewed in the US. Seems like 10% of the population consumes 75% of the alcohol.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2014/09/25/think-you-drink-a-lot-this-chart-will-tell-you/

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u/AnswersWithCool 4d ago

74 drinks per week??? That has to be all college students or something, that’s absolutely absurd.

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u/randalthor23 4d ago

a 30 rack to get through the work week, and a 30 rack for the weekend is pretty standard for alot of folks in the trades.

Get home from work and crack a beer (and more than you would think are cracking a road soda on the way). Dinner + beer, tv + beer.... not working = leisure activity + beer.

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u/Fermorian 4d ago

since he usually drank at least a bottle (750ml I assume) of tequila and a 12 pack of beer per day back home.

Christ on a bike. Cirrhosis, thy name is...that dude, I'm guessing.

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u/b_tight 4d ago

74 drinks in a week is nothing to an active alcoholic.

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u/AnswersWithCool 4d ago

That's true, I guess it's just surprising to me that 10% of the US population is active alcoholics.

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u/ASadDrunkard 3d ago

We know how to hide it.

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u/Havenkeld 4d ago edited 4d ago

More likely it's various kinds of hopeless people in their older middle ages, and people turning into those people.

It's also likely that because it's an average, the top 1% skew the top 10% very high.

College students might drink a lot on a weekend or whatever, but they tend not to be multiple daily drink types.

Also depends on what a drink is which it doesn't say in this article or the page it links, this could be whatever someone counts - where a light beer is "1 drink" and a pour of strong liquor is "1 drink", or it could be a specific metric where a pour of strong liquor would count for multiple drinks while a light beer might be a fraction of one.

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u/Ass-Packer 4d ago

i really want to know what the numbers are post 2020 because almost every single people i know in college is borderline alcoholic now, it was really bad last year when classes were all online too.

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u/Niro5 4d ago

Yeah, all these people saying Americans drink a lot never had a business lunch in Europe. I drank more in a typical work day lunch out in Europe, than I did in a typical weekend night in the Statea.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

I am a native-born Korean, but I've spent most of my life in the US.

When I spent a summer in Seoul in my early 20s, I was amazed by just how many sloppy drunks stumble out of karaoke bars in full business attire in broad daylight. And how ashtrays are basically just standard table setting.

People actually talk about drinking or smoking as problems in the US. Not every American wants to stop drinking or smoking, but almost everyone believes they probably should do with a bit less. They are considered vices. I saw none of that attitude in Seoul.

Is the lack of guilt a good thing? I don't know. But I don't think it's healthy to do all this and then feel like it's ok to do this forever. My grandfather most definitely died from alcoholism, but in Korea, he just was treated like a silly old man who had earned a few drinks in his later years.

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u/Niro5 4d ago

I actually lived on Korea for a year after college and almost used that as an example. I've never drank so much while turning down so many drinks. I tossed my kimchi a few times there. 2000₩ for a liter of soju will do that though.

Soju goes great with korean BBQ, and makes for an excellent liquid autotuner, but it's sad that there doesn't seem to be a culture of moderation. The lack of shame you mention really rings true. Some of the other teachers reeked of alcohol during the school day and wore masks to hide it and the faculty lounge fridge was full of beer. I also saw a guy standing outside of a hospital, wearing his hospital gown and smoking a cigarette while getting an IV.

I'm sorry about your grandfather.

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u/bg-j38 4d ago

2000₩

Just had to do the currency conversion. $1.68. I scared my officemate when I said "WHAT?" really loud. That's incredible.

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u/Niro5 4d ago

That was nearly 20 years ago and the cheapest booze you could find in a plastic bottle, but yeah, $1.60 (at the time) for 20% alcohol.

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u/oswbdo 4d ago

In a restaurant or store? It was 2000 won in a cheap restaurant and like 800 if you got it in a store when I lived there 20 years ago.

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u/Niro5 4d ago

Dang! I wasn't comparison shopping, so maybe! Also I'm talking about the big plastic jugs (maybe even two liters), not the little glass bottles.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

Off topic, soju might be cheap, but man, it hurts far more than it should for only being 20%. During my drinking days, I could sip vodka on ice all day, but soju was harder despite being half the strength, lol.

As a native Korean, seriously, fuck soju.

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u/AmarantCoral 4d ago

Lol I remember this comment on reddit of a girl from America who went to university in the UK and got really into the drinking culture and kept drinking to an extent where an average Brit wouldn't bat an eyelid upon returning to America. Her family staged an intervention.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

I think the reason why Americans think we have a country-wide drinking problem is actually because drinking is stigmatized to begin with. We drink way less than most developed countries do, but many other such countries pretend drinking is not a problem. Still, I don't think there's any doubt in my mind that there's more problematic drinking overseas than in the United States.

However, there's one related thing that is a big problem for Americans, and that is drinking and driving.

Americans drive a lot.

In other countries, where people drive much less, drinking doesn't have as much of an immediate and violent consequence like drunk driving does. So people can drink a lot and pretend they're handling it just fine because they're not facing immediate consequence. In America, almost all reckoning for drinking starts with DUI, which often leads to people to examine their relationship with drinking because it seems like other than DUI and religion, there's very little else that gets people to really think about drinking.

But to think Europeans can handle their alcohol and Americans are sloppy, when Europeans drink so much more on average, is ridiculous. Alcohol is alcohol. Just because you're able to stumble home and didn't get locked up for drunk driving doesn't mean you're doing any favors to your health.

I don't know where I heard this, but America doesn't have a drinking problem. It has a driving problem. Europe definitely has a drinking problem.

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u/scolfin 4d ago

I think other countries know there's a problem, with France for example having extremely limiting advertisement laws (a non-alcohol company's ad was blocked because the moderately-attractive woman the target consumer was identifying with was in the same frame as a cocktail), but they also like to act like America's problems are worse and ignore how much of it is due to the cultural differences they mock (such as underage drinking).

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u/malevolentheadturn 4d ago edited 3d ago

I remember a mate (Ireland) of mine was over in the States with his then American GF. They met up with a group of her friends to go to a party. They stopped off in a off licence / Liquor store. My mate picked up a 6 pack of bottled beer, nothing much. They left the shop and headed to the party. As they walked down the street my mate ask the other people "are you not getting anything to drink" Their response was "but you bought drinks" thinking that 4 of them were going to rock up with a six-pack.

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u/upinthenortheast 4d ago

Why not? You even have two extra for the next event!

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u/jeogan 4d ago

Here in Ireland, we have more of a problem with binge drinking. Plenty of people, myself included, might only drink once or twice a week, but when we do we tend to go drink fairly heavy.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

In all honesty, that's a problem with almost all so-called social drinkers.

That's why I personally stopped. I could go weeks without drinking, but whenever I started, I'd want to slam three vodka shots so I could feel a base level of drunk. Sometimes, it'd be like two martinis back to back.

I legit thought that only put me at like 0.10 BAC. Turns out, when you're at my weight, that could be 0.14 BAC, and that would take 7-8 hours to fully metabolize.

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u/mrhhug 4d ago

And the punishment for DUI is sobriety. They put you on probation. Take your license for like a month and test your urine. You need the license to get to the urine tests. They send you to jail if you drink again..... but that wasn't your problem. Your problem is you don't know how to get around under the influence. They should take the license for a while so someone has to figure out how to get around without driving.

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u/RebelJustforClicks 4d ago

You often times have no other option. In most places in the US, there simply are no alternatives to driving. Sure, there are a handful of major cities where you can get nearly anywhere by bus or train, but if you live in a rural area, you have to drive or take a cab/Uber.

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u/BotBlake 4d ago

This is complete and total speculation, but I wonder if some of it has to do with the US being much less "dense" than European countries. I can't drink throughout the weekdays, because I have no other option besides driving for transportation. For me, that pretty much confines drinking time to being when I'm settled somewhere and in a social setting.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

I think it's the culture.

Sure, Prohibition is no longer a thing, but how many European countries are you aware of where alcohol was banned at the very highest level via a democratic process? Temperance movements were extremely powerful in the USA. They no longer exist in their original form, but I think many of their efforts were redirected to mainly focus on drunk driving, while still continuing to spread their message that drinking itself is bad.

Many Americans don't drink, and not drinking is considered a virtue. President Obama drank, but he's the only president in the 2000s that did. Biden, Bush, and Trump were all non-drinkers (or at least they say they were) at the time of election. I'm not saying they were better people because of it, but I'm sure some people considered that a good thing.

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u/CtothePtotheA 4d ago

I think the US went through a period of drinking more frequently. Especially in the 50s, 60s and 70s. Having whiskey in the bosses office was common then.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

That might be true. Even in my lifetime, I feel like the societal attitudes toward drinking have changed greatly. I feel like in the 90s, there was a lot more leniency, even when people got DUIs. Today, there seems to be a lot less.

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u/Niro5 4d ago

There could be something to that. The District of Columbia has excellent public transit and drinks 14 liters per person per year.

That said, plenty of tourists and people from Maryland and Virginia, combined with a young population likely drive that number way up.

My guess is that probably plays some part, but less than the fact that 30% of Americans never drink.

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u/elhan_kitten 4d ago

Those 14 litres per are cause all the hill staffers are alcoholics.

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u/soonerguy11 4d ago

That's not a bad thing either. I'm not sure why you would want your country on this list.

I'm a pretty avid drinker. Not like daily but I am into wine and whiskey, as well as some craft beers. I can control it, but a ton of people can't. The top countries on this list are depressing.

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u/Infin1ty 4d ago

Yeah, we have extremely large population groups that regard alcohol usage as something against their beliefs. We also have very prevalent anti-drinking groups and campaigns. People sometimes forget that we fucking banned alcohol for a decade in the early 20th century. We would probably be extremely close to the top of the chart for per capita pot usage though.

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

My friend jokes about CBD moms. Literally every one of her fellow moms with young children seem to have suddenly discovered CBD.

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u/Infin1ty 4d ago

It's sold everywhere these days, at least in my area. My fucking doctor's office even offers CBD in their pharmacy.

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u/mistajoness 4d ago

These countries are much more homogenous than the US. There are many demographics here (e.g. 7 million mormons) who hardly drink at all and temper our sizeable binge drinking numbers.

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u/zigbigadorlou 4d ago

Yeah I was curious to compare with individual states and found this, conversion an emphasis added.

The ten states with the highest alcohol consumption per capita (in gallons) are:

New Hampshire (4.67 gallons) [17.6 Liters]

Delaware (3.52 gallons)

Nevada (3.42 gallons)

North Dakota (3.16 gallons)

Montana (3.1 gallons)

Vermont (3.06 gallons)

Idaho (2.94 gallons)

Wisconsin (2.93 gallons)

Colorado (2.88 gallons)

South Dakota (2.87 gallons)

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u/strugglebusdriver03 4d ago

Dang New Hampshire, you good?

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u/McMurphy11 4d ago

Massachusetts residents hopping the border for tax free booze I'd say.

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u/DMala 4d ago

These numbers are definitely skewed. NH has big, state run liquor stores right at the border along all the major routes. NH numbers reflect some MA consumption for sure and possibly ME and VT as well.

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u/Shardstorm88 4d ago

And Canadian! I stop at that NH liquor store every time I go down to Boston from Mtl.

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u/T_WRX21 4d ago

Pretty much. We do like to get lit, and it's really cheap, but it's mostly MA.

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u/SlayerOfDougs 4d ago

No way is this accurate. Wisconsin has like 10 of the top 12 drinking towns in the country

but dam .. now I see NH on other sites as well

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u/bg-j38 4d ago

I was going to say like where the fuck is Wisconsin on this? I'd think we'd be leading the pack. (sorry, pun not really intended?)

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u/mittenciel 4d ago

It’s not just Mormons, either. Strict Muslims certainly don’t drink. Alcoholism is also much more widely talked about in the US, whereas other countries often act like alcoholism is not a problem. Perhaps as a result, not drinking for whatever reason is actually pretty normalized in the US. If you’re an adult and someone says “I don’t drink,” people often just accept that, usually no questions asked, and if people ask or pressure you to drink, it’s considered extremely rude. There are many countries where this is not true at all.

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u/Argendauss 4d ago

Damn, Seychelles, who hurt you?

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u/Faine44 4d ago

Very popular tourist destination. Also, the US Navy does port calls there...

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u/tthrow22 4d ago

Does tourism totally screw with this data? If an island has 1 person who lives there and doesn’t drink, but tourists buy 5000 liters of alcohol, the per capita consumption would be 5000 (alcohol sold / population)?

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u/WCGWjoiningReddit 4d ago

According to this chart, yes. The numbers are skewed as a result. And I'd guess Seychelles skyrocketed because it has become a popular tourist destination.
Now... to buy some tickets.

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u/RelaxedOrange 4d ago

Everyone rushing to go to those tropical Lithuanian beaches

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u/Shandlar 4d ago

I can't wait til they get rich enough to buy a couple proper naval cutters and they can start harpooning somali pirates. They have a chance to be one of the richest nations on Earth if it wasn't for all the piracy of their merchant marine.

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u/gmunoz14 4d ago

This gives me GOT/Pirates of the Caribbean vibes. Where do I sign up

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u/WCGWjoiningReddit 4d ago

Oh you all are gonna love this then. And you sign up here.

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u/pbizzle 4d ago

This might account for Luxembourgs intake, people visiting for the tax free booze runs

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u/Tight-laced 4d ago

Lux has population of ~600k, but also ~200k cross border workers coming in daily.

So all those workers coming in, consuming alcohol, and then not showing up on the Per Capita calculations because they don't reside there.

Lux is a weird anomaly that shows up in lots of statistics like this for that very reason.

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u/pbizzle 4d ago

There was one earlier today on Reddit for carbon footprint or something

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u/electro1ight 4d ago

Seems so, look at Luxembourg

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u/talaron 4d ago

The Seychelles have been a tourist destination for a while, and since they're a very high-end destination I doubt that tourists alone would push its alcohol consumption to world-leading levels.

However, the Seychelles have other societal issues (mostly related to an over-reliance on tourism and virtually no other industries being present) that have likely increased the alcohol consumption of their own population over the years. In fact, it's not just alcohol but other drugs as well. In 2018, it was estimated that One tenth of the total population was abusing Heroin. All of this obviously got much worse when tourism disappeared because of covid, but that's not even in the chart.

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u/punny_po 4d ago edited 4d ago

The Seychelles have had fairly high alcohol consumption for a while now. It is indeed a combination of data skewed by tourism as well as local drinking culture. I'm unsure it'd make the top 10 without the tourism, but the country definitely has issues with alcohol consumption. I doubt however that the drinking culture is related to the lack of industry diversification, although that is a whole topic in itself worthy of separate discussion.

As for that heroin statistic, it was a tenth of the working population rather than total population. I.e 5000-6000 people out of a working population of ~60-70k, and a total population ~100k. Still horrifying but best we get the numbers straight.

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u/Rip_Nujabes 4d ago

5-6% of the total population is definitely absurdly high

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u/cheeze_whizard 4d ago

My question is what was going on in Belarus between 2009-2013?

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u/robisodd 4d ago

She sells Seychelles liquor by the seashore.

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u/manrata 4d ago

Low population, high tourist population, and many eastern europeans buying houses there, especially Russians.
Guess it's not the native people as much as the non-natives.

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u/why-you-online 4d ago

Uganda really leapt in there. Surprising, because I don't think they ever had a reputation for drinking.

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u/roguedevil 4d ago

I imagine it's due to put record keeping. They've had a big issue with moonshiners for a while. Entire towns and micro economies dedicated to making and consuming war gin.

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u/Guy_A 4d ago edited 4d ago

i lived there for a year, the vice doc is pretty sensationalist but in the end its completely true. you can purchase gin in 100ml plastic bags starting from 15cents, or a whole jerrycan of 20L (forgot how much that cost). i saw mothers drinking themselves while breastfeeding a kid and tending to the fire under a molasses barrel to brew & fill those jerry cans, in smoke that i couldn't last more than seconds in due to it stinging in my eyes. problem is, not sure how many are like that, but the police run these "breweries" themselves.

the only reason they don't die from methanol poisoning is because they use these 20L cans , since the methanol comes out first, then the ethanol, and since its mixed in those big cans its mixed well enough that you can drink pretty safely from it. (ethanol is an antidote)

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u/Ndi_Omuntu 4d ago

Lived in Uganda for two years.

I met a lot of Ugandans who abstained from alcohol, but the ones that didn't sure did knock em back.

They were in the process of banning satchets when I lived there (nearby Tanzania had done so before them). They're packets of hard liquor and are stupid cheap. You can get whisky, vodka, or waragi (war gin; basically was moonshine made from local crops that).

Some beer can get pretty cheap, but I'd wager its hard alcohol that puts them so high in the standings. You'd see ssebos sipping on those anywhere anytime.

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u/captainsciencepants 4d ago

Lived in Uganda for a year. Can confirm they can go hard. They drink waragi “war gin”.

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u/TheJustBleedGod 4d ago

Surprised South Korea isn't on that chart. Dudes have a bottle of soju during lunch like its nothing.

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u/truant111 4d ago

Korean drinking culture is something to witness. It’s just normal to see businessmen wearing suits straight up passed out in the gutter on a random weekday morning.

Everyone saying that soju has a low alcohol content at only 20% is missing the point; it’s insanely cheap and people drink it like water. People just sit there refilling each other’s glasses all night until someone falls over. If a group of people go to a karaoke room the soju gets brought in by the crate.

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u/RiskyBrothers 4d ago edited 4d ago

Yeah, 20% is pretty substantial if you're throwing it back. Wine is usually around 14% and I start feeling that after just a glass or so. Doing the math, your average cocktail in a 16oz pint glass will be about half-full of ice, with around 3oz of liquor and 5oz of mixer. Assuming your liquor is around 40%, that means the liquid portion of the drink starts out just under 20% alcohol. So I can imagine that people could get pretty messed up on Soju if it goes down like wine/mead/a cocktail.

EDIT: Seems Soju is pretty similar to Sake, so definitely something I'd say you can get drunk on easily without much discomfort before the hangover hits.

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u/CaptainEarlobe 4d ago

They also add it to their beer.

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u/Lupicia 4d ago

Soju is hits harder and is easier drinking than sake. It goes down like water, then sucker punches you. In Japan you can easily get cans of shochu highball. It's a quick and efficient way to be drunk.

Sake is kind of floral, kind of oily, kind of like white wine, faintly like acetone, and sometimes intense. I find it hard to mix and much easier to sip in small quantities.

Soju is faintly sweet and buttery. It mixes into almost anything. It's so, so easy to drink... but it will knock you on your ass if you forget for a second that it can be north of 20 proof.

Worst regrets and hangovers ever.

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u/RiskyBrothers 4d ago

So what you're saying is that me and the boys should try it.

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u/mnilailt 4d ago

Drop a shot in a beer glass for a good time. Make sure its the unflavoured stuff though/

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u/TurkeyHunter 4d ago

In Japan you can easily get cans of shochu highball. It's a quick and efficient way to be drunk.

Ah yes, "strong zero" the gaijin trap. Foreigners will say they drink a lot, says the can tastes like nothing significant, passed out drunk after slamming 3 cans like an idiot, and gets searing headache the next day. I knew all this because I was that foreigner once, now I only slam 2 cans of strong zero no more searing headache

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u/Azuzu88 4d ago

People sitting outside the convenience store until the early hours of the morning drinking every night.

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u/The_Airwolf_Theme 4d ago

Been to Korea 7 times and couldn't get into it. Now a soju cocktail? I'm down with those.

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u/MattAwesome 4d ago

And they leave the empty bottles on the tables like a mark of pride to show everyone else how much they have drank.

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u/Moldoteck 4d ago

Genuinely asking, aren't there many cancer diagnosis for upper digestive tract because of this?

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u/lafie 4d ago

Seems south korea shows "no data" in source.

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u/Berlinexit 4d ago

In other words this is not good data

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u/aarontbarratt 4d ago

The Korean data analysts didn't get the data in on time sadly. Had a piss up the night before and woke up late

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u/rayzzier 4d ago

Yeah same, I was waiting for SK to pop up

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u/CaptainEarlobe 4d ago

Yup. Drink the night away and then get up at 6am for work.

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u/veryblessed123 4d ago

This is the correct answer. I thought South Korea drinks the most. "According to studies, Koreans consume the most alcohol in the world. The “bottoms-up” approach to drinking translates to drinking one-shot at a time rather than drinking a little sip each time. Reports show that at 11.2 shots per week, Koreans are drinking twice as much as the Russians, who hold the second ranking as most frequent alcohol drinkers. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drinking_culture_of_Korea

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u/zigbigadorlou 4d ago

Lol the citation is from the Turkish Journal of Business Ethics whos DOI and direct link lead to a 404 error. Not sure I'd trust said "studies".

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u/Wydi 4d ago

Okay, so ResearchGate has a copy, but it cites BusinessInsider as a source, which cites Euromonitor, which is closed access, but they refer to a QZ article that links to a New York Times article that states

According to the World Health Organization, South Koreans rank No. 13 in alcohol consumption over all but No. 1 in hard liquor consumption.

..without any explicit sources. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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u/EJGaag 4d ago

Maybe their original source is the other Pie Chart Pirate

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u/McMadface 4d ago

I've been all around the world and have drank with Irish, Scots, and Russians. But, nobody is as scary as a middle-aged Korean businessman. Those guys are freaking nuts.

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u/ButterflyCatastrophe 4d ago

This is a case where using an absolute scale would help. A lot of this style animation are things that have a continuous growth rate, like GDP or market cap, but these data have no reason to be monotonically increasing. In fact, they show some (potentially) interesting declines that are obscured by the maximum-normalization.

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u/williamtbash 4d ago edited 3d ago

It was a pretty boring chart tbh. Just show me the current graph. I could care less who drank more in 2016.

EDIT: Wow the couldn't police is out in full force today. Actually yes. I could care less. I barely care, and there is more room for me to care less. Thanks.

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u/slickyslickslick 3d ago

I hate Piratechart because it just gives a bunch of bar charts one after the other instead of a simple line graph that is much easier to read and derive patterns from.

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u/baldHeadSpaceRider 4d ago

Is this alcohol purchased over the counter only? In some places like Bulgaria, there is the tradition to make your own wine/rakia. Rakia, for people who are not familiar, is brandy like spirit alcohol, made from fermented fruits. Also there is contraband alcohol as well.

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u/domokosdomokos 4d ago edited 2d ago

Same in Romania and Hungary but it’s called tuica/palinka. Every village has it’s own brewery

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u/Stash201518 4d ago

You mean “every house has its own brewery”

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u/scolfin 4d ago

That's 100% what happened in Uganda, a mix of better tracking and a shift from homebrewed banana beer to Konyagi and brand-name waragi.

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u/kostispetroupoli 4d ago

Greece and Albania too, I assume most of the other Balkans as well.

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u/Memaleph 4d ago

Considering Luxembourg results, it seems very likely to be based on purchases. Luxembourg is a small country, with low taxes on alcohol. So many people in neighbouring countries buy their alcohol there. For a big party, it is worth the 1h ride ( and you'll save on gas too)

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u/Rezroc 4d ago

Seychelles has the same thing, except it's called Baka

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u/meltphace_ 4d ago

The rakia bites back if you're not careful.

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u/Lots_of_schooners 4d ago

As an Australian I'm kind of disappointed. We get branded as a nation of pissheads but we couldn't even crack the top 10.

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u/wiliammm19999 4d ago edited 3d ago

Being British and seeing how much we drink on a weekly basis and we only crack 10th place once. Makes me think about just how much those top ten countries must be drinking.

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u/PM_me_your_arse_ 4d ago

I think that's more to do with how people drink rather than the quantity.

In the UK there's a lot of people who drink a lot at the weekends and then stay sober during the week. Whereas in some other countries people drink a little bit every day.

The latter could mean that they drink more, but it's not as visible as large groups of drunk people at the weekends.

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u/Connect-Pool-4577 4d ago

We're there from 2003 to 2006

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u/Ghoats 4d ago

Just before the smoking ban.

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u/tb5841 4d ago

In the UK alcohol consumption has plummeted in the last few decades, particularly among the young. Tends to be the middle aged who drink most, now.

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u/c0mad0r 4d ago

Don't worry, Aussies were mentioned, but beat out by the French overall per capita:

"The share of adults who drink alcohol is highest across Western Europe and Australia. It is highest in France: In 2010, close to 95 percent of adults in France had drunk alcohol in the preceding year."

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u/isocrackate 4d ago

What’s interesting is the implication that virtually every non-Muslim in France drinks. The most recent poll I’ve seen suggests that around 5.6% of French adults are Muslim. Granted, I know some Muslims who drink, but very few and rarely around other Muslims, and the French Muslim population tends to be rather insular.

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u/IncomingFrag 3d ago

I live in France and the number of muslims who call themselves religious so they don't eat prok but smoke and drink like mofos is surprisingly high.

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u/temujin64 4d ago

Some cultures engage in occasional binge drinking while not really opting for habitual drinking.

In other words, for example, if you had a 10 pint night out every other week, you'd be drinking less on average than someone who has a pint with dinner every day.

But the person who occasionally has 10 pints in one night would be considered to have the more serious drinking problem because they are going to get drunk and potentially be an asshole. The person who has a pint with dinner every day will never get close to drunk.

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u/RonnieTheEffinBear 4d ago

I guess I'm just a cranky old man, but why is every graph on this subreddit a minute long gif nowadays?

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u/kdavis37 4d ago

What do you want, some simple, ready to read, line graph? Pfft

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u/heeero60 4d ago

I know, right? I've been on reddit a long time without saying this, but this subreddit has really gone down the crapper. I totally blame piechartpirate and his cronies.

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u/SuperMark12345 4d ago

It’s the piechartpirate and like 3 other guys that comprise a bulk of the useless gif submissions. Whenever I see his name on a post I know I should just skip to the end to get the info and then downvote for not being a static line graph with time on the x axis like it should be.

I’m guessing the people upvoting don’t really have jobs where data visualization is important.

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u/LaLiLuLeLo_0 4d ago edited 4d ago

It sucks, every post I see from this sub is from PieChartPirate and his useless line-graphs-turned-animations. Every single one of their posts could be a static image and it would be more informative, but just generate less karma.

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u/gLocalKid 4d ago

What they got going on in Seychelles? I need to make a visit

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u/BenjaminDrover 4d ago

Their dominant industry is tourism, so it is mostly foreigners drinking up the booze.

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u/motorbiker1985 4d ago

Cheap flights increased amount of tourists massively and turned it from high-end destination to popular spot for cheap booze.

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u/Bytesu 4d ago

Cool stuff. The subtitle is missing a 'per time unit'.

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u/fishnwirenreese 4d ago

Canada doesn't crack the list even once?

I'm gonna have to step things up.

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u/catgotcha 4d ago

Fellow Canadian here, lived in UK for three years and Ukraine for one. Trust me, we do not drink as much as we like to think we do.

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u/fantasmoofrcc 4d ago

The Brits do indeed drink...a lot. I think it's toned down in shows like EastEnders and Coronation Street, they should be 100% filmed in a pub.

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u/gyroda 4d ago

I'm surprised we didn't make it onto the list more, though we popped up a couple of times.

Might be that we have more extremes? Makes the drinking culture bad/have a bigger effect on the rest of society, with less overall alcohol consumed.

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u/acvos 4d ago

That's true patriotism

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u/fishnwirenreese 4d ago

Particularly considering I'm willing to do it all myself.

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u/printergumlight OC: 1 4d ago

And I took that personally.

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u/carbonated_turtle 4d ago

I'm not saying Canadians don't like to drink, but this is about pure alcohol, and going out and drinking 12 craft beers at 4.5% alcohol in a night doesn't compare to people in Eastern European countries who are polishing off a 26er in a night.

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u/EdwardJamesAlmost 4d ago

A 26er? Like, a handle of liquor with 26 shots in it?

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u/carbonated_turtle 4d ago

Basically. It's Canadian for a 750ml (or roughly 26 ounce) bottle of hard liquor.

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u/EdwardJamesAlmost 4d ago

Huh, I’d never heard that term, but it makes sense. TIL thanks

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u/Replikant83 4d ago

Other names in Canada are twixx, twixxer and two-six.

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u/YUNoDie 4d ago

Huh, I guess that makes about as much sense as the American term for that volume (a fifth, from a fifth of a gallon)

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u/RecycledAccountName 4d ago

Do Canadians drink exclusively session beers or something?

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u/lil_navraj 4d ago

Does anyone think canadians drink a lot?

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u/lawnerdcanada 4d ago

A lot of Canadians don't drink. Over 20 percent of those 15 and older drink nothing in a given year (https://www.ccsa.ca/sites/default/files/2019-09/CCSA-Canadian-Drug-Summary-Alcohol-2019-en.pdf at page 2); conversely, only five percent of German adults consider themselves teetotalers (https://www.dw.com/en/the-highs-and-lows-of-germanys-drinking-culture/a-2226609)

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u/Madranite 4d ago

You’re going to be ruined…

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u/narcosatanista 4d ago

Luxembourg data is skewed... People from Germany, France and Belgium come here to buy alcohol, because it is cheaper.

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u/kaikai34 4d ago

So pure alcohol is 100%. A bottle of your standard vodka/tequila/whisky is 40%. So 20 liters of pure would be the equivalent of 71.5 bottles of your standard 700ml 80 proof booze per year or 1 bottle every 5 days. That’s insane if my math isn’t wrong.

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u/DogsBeerYarn 4d ago

Not a lot of overlap with the happiest countries list.

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u/motorbiker1985 4d ago

Depends on what you call "happy". CZ never had any good rating in self-reported happiness, but leads the EU in lowest amount of clinical depression. Meanwhile countries that report the highest happiness in Europe have the highest amount of depression and suicides.

Happiness is self-reported and is reported based on local culture (it is consider a custom to never say you are very happy in the former eastern bloc even if you are and it is considered custom to say you are fine and even satisfied in the Nordic countries, even if you aren't).

Also, the amount of alcohol consumed is in many countries based not on what locals drink, but how many booze tourists come into that country.

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u/abananation 4d ago

Do people in CZ visit psychologists often? I have depression, and back in Ukraine most people's response is 'just go out more often'.

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u/motorbiker1985 4d ago

Psychology and psychiatry in CZ is quite standard, I don't have much experience with this, but know some doctors and lived in western Europe for some time, I would say it is comparable to France or Germany.

When I had hard time falling asleep, many people in CZ said to visit a psychologist about it or to have something prescribed. In the UK, I was told "it's not a real problem, get over it" by a doctor.

Turned out I was overworked and had irregular working hours. Changed a job, problem solved.

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u/adamzzz8 4d ago

That's because mental problems are still a huge taboo in post-communist countries. Most people in CZ are way too afraid (of what the other people would say about them) to seek mental health help. Parents use it on their kids - "Stop doing that or they'll put you in the insert the name of the nearest mental hospital ".

The correlation is there most likely - have a mental issue that you're too afraid to consult with a specialist? Let's have a beer. Or 5. Or a liter of wine. Bottle of vodka maybe? Or the good shit your uncle distilled from apricots last summer?

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u/UncleSnowstorm 4d ago

UK dropping off the list around the time of the financial crash. Because we can't bloody afford to drink now.

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u/theshelfside 4d ago

Have a Russian/ Lithuanian wife. Can confirm. Trips to visit the family start and end with hard liquor. Makes my Australian beer drinking prowess look weak as, well, piss. Za Zdarovye!

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u/luleigas 4d ago

Trips to visit the family start and end with hard liquor.

In between: hard liquor

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u/FullMetalJackedDick 4d ago

I visited Latvia and a grandma drank me under the table with ease

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u/rayparkersr 4d ago

My wife's 85 year old grandad RIP went out on his birthday and drank 2 litres of vodka over a 48 hour session. A respectable Soviet military guy. I would definitely be dead if I drank 2 litres of vodka.

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u/MarxnEngles 4d ago

Za Zdarovye

Oh my god an English speaker who finally got this right.

It's like seeing a unicorn.

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u/Opus-the-Penguin 4d ago

Compare to 19th century United States which peaked at 26.5 in 1830. This was down to 9.5 by the time Prohibition was passed, but I think that was largely due to the Temperance movement not pulling its weight. The hard drinkers were drinking plenty hard to make up for that.

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u/Torugu 4d ago

What is the source for those numbers and are they reliable?

Because 26.5 litre in 1830 is insane. Especially for the time period.

For comparison Prussia had a "moonshine plague" during the same period. At the height of the "plague" Prussia had a per capita consumption of 8 litre, with the worst hit area topping out at 13 litre...

The high of the "plague" was also in 1830 - 1840, so if your numbers are correct then the US consumed more than twice as much alcohol as the worst areas in Prussia. And if that's the peak for the US as a whole that implies that the worst hit areas in the US were considerably higher than that...

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u/masamunecyrus OC: 4 4d ago

This BBC article says 7.1 gallons per year in 1830.

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31741615

7.1 gallons per year of pure ethanol = 142 gallons at 5% ABV = 1,515 12 oz bottles of beer = 4 bottles of 5% beer per day per capita

That jives with the accounts from the Ken Burns documentary on Prohibition if you've seen that. If you haven't seen it, you should--it's a great documentary.

Edit: if BBC is using imperial gallons, that's still 3.5 bottles of beer per day.

Edit 2: I can't math. If using imperial gallons, that's 5 bottles of beer per day.

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u/Ewoksintheoutfield 4d ago

I remember learning in college the alcohol consumption in the US during the early 1800s was just insane, so I’m not surprised to see this.

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u/timpdx 4d ago

Thought Korea would be on here 100%

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u/J_Dawg_1979 4d ago

Why are we still using these charts that show time series in a moving bar chart? Have we forgotten that we can use the X axis for time?

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u/Recconice 4d ago

Something seems slightly off with your plot scale. It works as long as the top consumers total consumption rises but fails when it decreases. You can spot it when Moldova‘s value drops below 18 but the bar itself remains right of the 18 scale mark.

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u/alyssasaccount 4d ago

These kind of animated race bar charts kind of work when the values being compared grow rapidly overall over orders of magnitude. Here, a regular time series graph would show everything this does in a single glance; the animated race business just obfuscates.

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u/andycantwell 4d ago

Very disappointed with Ireland's performance here.

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u/Dr-Jellybaby 4d ago

I'm surprised we're so high considering we have far and away the most expensive alcohol in the EU.

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u/andycantwell 4d ago

That actually probably explains why were not higher here

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u/stay_broke 4d ago

Any read on what causes the rise and fall? Is it a population shift? Just a tourism boost and the fad dies? Good/bad economic times?

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u/Artess 4d ago

Well, in case of Russia, life was very shit in the 90s so people drank a lot because of that. It gradually became less shit so people moved away from "bottle of vodka in the afternoon to forget everything" to "a beer with friends after work".

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u/smajl87 4d ago

Coming here from Czech republic, that's amount per week, right?

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u/ratonbox 4d ago

I could see when I stopped drinking on the Romanian bar chart.

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u/LeilaMajnouni 4d ago

Seychelles in a come-from-behind win.

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u/xninjagrrl 4d ago

Everyone else got too drunk and fell down. Seychelles skated in for the gold like that speed skater in that olympics years ago.

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u/amsulilie 4d ago

What where is Korea i don’t believe it

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u/dec7td 4d ago

What happened in Moldova that made their rates drop so fast?

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u/colantor 4d ago

They went too hard from the start, passed out in the home stretch

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u/hi_brett 4d ago

Now do one for “during COVID”

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u/skidwiz 4d ago

This data doesn't include South Korea, which is nearly always at the top of every list. Even the World Health Organization says it's 16 liters per capita among alcohol drinkers.