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u/RedRedditor84 Sep 26 '21

Jules, Kev, and Tone were all prime ministers of Australia in 2013. I feel like this chart doesn't convey that at all.

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u/seracen OC: 1 Sep 26 '21

I was like ‘damn we only had six?’ Feels like way more

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u/Alert_Performance256 Sep 26 '21

Keep in mind its only 3 more prime ministers till Christmas.

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u/ElephantRiotXXX5 Sep 27 '21

Pfffttttt. Dictator Dutton begs to differ.

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u/spankingasupermodel Sep 26 '21

Damn that was 8 years ago already? ScoMo's been PM for too long. It's in-Australian not to have some backbencher stab him in the back. I'd even take someone challenging Albo. It's weird not having our leaders hate each other and act like toddlers.

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u/_GayFlower_ Sep 26 '21

im surprised he stayed in after the lump of coal fiasco

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u/Safebox Sep 26 '21

I'm surprised he's still in charge after the wildfire incident where almost everyone told him to fuck off cause he continued to deny climate change

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u/NorahKing Sep 26 '21

They basically ran him out of the town. Cobargo. Never forget that the man went to a town full of broken people, who were mourning their homes, working hard not to lose others, for a fucking photo opportunity! He’s scum. Meanwhile, Tony Abbott was out on a truck himself, fighting fires for his community.

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u/Safebox Sep 26 '21

Possibly. All I recall was him trying to console a woman who had lost her home and when he went in for a hug she told him to fuck off.

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u/Betancorea Sep 26 '21

Or the forced attempts at hand shakes

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u/Nick_pj Sep 27 '21

Here’s a great video of him putting a woman’s hand in his for a photo op, then turning his back on her and ignoring when she said “we need more help”. What a guy!

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u/sunburn95 Sep 26 '21

Lol the lump of coal is far far down the list. He may well have won the last election because the opposition was viewed as anti-coal in QLD

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u/iamericj Sep 26 '21

I'm surprised he was elected at all after what he did in the Engadine Maccas in 1997.

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u/Alexpander4 Sep 26 '21

It's when the politicians start working together and taking decisive action that you really need to panic.

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u/MisterBumpingston Sep 26 '21

Yeah he changed the rules so we have to tolerate him for a bit longer.

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u/Sakilla07 Sep 26 '21

A lot longer mate, as much as hate to admit it, very good chance Libs stay in power again.

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u/Brittainicus Sep 26 '21

WA implosion by itself is enough to throw next federal election, western Sydney is currently pissed off with lnp due to uneven application of policing. Queensland and WA have unified behind strong state borders and Victoria is just exhausted. The expected swing in anyone of theses regions is enough to flip the government let alone all of them.

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u/holeyquacamoley Sep 26 '21

Don't get my hopes up please

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u/chillbitte Sep 26 '21

It feels so Australian to refer to your prime ministers with extremely casual nicknames, I love it

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u/MoonRabbitWaits Sep 26 '21

PM Scott Morrison actually signs off with Scomo, so of course people change it to Scumo or Slomo etc.

McDonald's actually have Macca's branding here, fully leaning into their nickname.

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u/DeeDee_GigaDooDoo Sep 26 '21

It's simultaneously respectful to the few pollies we like and disrespectful for those we won't so it has great versatility. If we like them they get called by their first name because it's friendly. If we don't like them we don't respect them by calling them by their title, so call them a casual nickname.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

It seems wonderful for being sarcastic and passive-aggressive.

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u/Brittainicus Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

Wait till you hear about Scotty from marketing the current Prime minister who was fired from senior management for marketing in Australia and New Zealand Governments due to reason he actively suppressed from becoming public so you know he's embarrassed by it. He's also called Scotty from Engadine, where he famously publicly shat his pants in front of staff. With the story originating while he was a back bencher and not at all in a serious public view strongly suggesting it's actually true.

We also have a state where leader's nickname is koala killer and her vice leader is refered to as Bruz who responded to the nickname by suing a YouTuber and google itself and then sent sending counter terrorism police after said YouTuber because he got upset.

Another state has a leader which lockdowned the state hard getting Covid zero after hitting 700 daily cases. So he was called chairman Dan by anti lockdown sorts, he then had a horrible accident and hurt his back and had to take sick leave for a fairly long time so he became wheel chairman Dan.

There is also a federal minister refered to as either a potato or as Voldemort.

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u/DisturbingInterests Sep 27 '21

That’s Mr Potato Head thank you.

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u/Latteralus Sep 27 '21

I snorted when I read 'wheel chairman Dan' fuck me mate.

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u/IKnewThat45 Sep 26 '21

POLLIES. you guys are the best.

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u/Vengeful_Dropbear Sep 26 '21

Scott "Engadine" Morrison

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u/eggbert_217 Sep 27 '21

Scott Morrison (PM) deliberately coined his nickname "ScoMo" to try and seem 'working-class.' Then does photo shoots where he fakes hammering a nail or has people clean the boxes he's about to carry during flood relief.

As far as I know the opposition leader Anthony Albanese (Albo) came by the nickname honestly.

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u/RedRedditor84 Sep 26 '21

Scomo is just called "my uh... my friend from... from down under here" by Biden.

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u/pineapplesouvlaki Sep 26 '21

A common nickname is "that cunt". Confusing to an outsider but in Australia we know what cunt youre talking about.

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u/The_H3rbinator Sep 26 '21

Fuck, that was all in the same year? I wondered why Australia's looked a bit too normal.

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u/sunburn95 Sep 26 '21

Simple version, one party replaced their leader (as we vote for party not Prime Minister) then that party lost the election that year

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u/fouhay Sep 27 '21

Looks like they counted number of people not number of terms - Rudd's second term isn't shown, (even though it was all of three months)

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u/Nickillaz Sep 26 '21

Yea the first thing i thought was to look for Australia with their revolving door Prime ministership

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '21

What's with Japan changing so many PMs?

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u/AgnosticAsian Sep 26 '21

They kept resigning because none of them could solve the the economic crisis

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u/Dumbhosadika OC: 6 Sep 26 '21

Never heard they were economically struggling. How is the condition now?

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u/tky_phoenix Sep 26 '21

u/ArthoO already pointed you towards the lost decades but Japan was suffering for about 20 years. The labor market here is a lot less forgiving and people who couldn't get decent full-time positions in the 90s are still suffering from the consequences.

Japan still has its problems but overall is doing pretty well. Still one of the largest economies in the world, unemployment rate of 2.8%. Even during COVID there weren't mass lay offs like in the US for example.

But yeah, most prime ministers were just puppets and gave up after a year. Even now they are going through reelection as the guy who took office after Shinzo Abe is giving up now after exactly one year. (He was also incredibly incompetent)

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u/mrbrownl0w Sep 26 '21 Silver

At least they have the decency to quit when they can't solve shit. Cries in Turkish.

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u/Etherius Sep 26 '21

Could be worse... Could be Belarus.

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u/rocker_face Sep 26 '21

I'm from Ukraine... we feel your pain

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u/accountant119 Sep 26 '21

Lebanon here.. 1 year without a functional government since Aug 4 explosion

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u/BlazeKnaveII Sep 26 '21

Omg it's a year.. how are you getting by?

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u/gogetenks123 Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 27 '21 Silver Helpful Hugz Brighten My Day

No electricity and the currency is spiraling out of control (but it’s had a good week). We’re lucky with water in our area, others have had issues with both drinking and house water (we can’t drink from the tap either way, gotta get bottled if you don’t like diarrhea).

It’s no longer as safe as before, mugging etc was a rare occurrence in the past but now there are desperate hungry people.

The gas shortage is easing but only because they stopped subsidizing it. I refueled my car with more money than minimum wage yesterday.

Everyone is either trying to leave or hopeful for change or hopeless and waiting for something to happen. Personally I’m all three.

As for justice in the port incident, there have been no convictions. Expecting anything better would be naive.

Elections next year and they’re already messing with the electoral law. I expect non-establishment candidates to be intimidated like last time and outright assassinated (given the higher stakes).

I struggle to talk about it because I don’t want to complain all day. But things are tough. Some crises have been easing very slightly though. It can go either way from here.

No electricity is a problem though. Devastating for productivity, and leads to the entire fridge spoiling over only two or three days. No fuel also means you can’t go to work. Things are bad. Things are really bad.

EDIT: just so we’re clear, this isn’t because of the explosion. Lebanon has been on a downward spiral and the explosion came at the worst place. It’s not more than 10% of the problem. Not because it wasn’t a big deal, but because it’s a drop in the bucket compared to the rest. Of course if you live closer to where it happened your life has been affected more. I was lucky not to live that close.

Also EDIT: thank you all for the kind words. If you want to help and are able to do so, consider donating to a trusted NGO, there are a few listed here. The Lebanese Red Cross is also an option but not named in that list, I would personally never consider giving money to any other organization.

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u/accountant119 Sep 26 '21

Absolutely horrible!

Our currency inflated, the minimum monthly wage is now almost 40$. Everything is expensive

We're suffering from medications shortages in pharmacies and they're becoming extremely expensive for the average Lebanese

We're also suffering from a severe fuel shortage. Since 2 months ago, we've been getting barely 3 to 7 hours electricity per day

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u/fckthedamnworld Sep 26 '21

Thanks god we have a possibility to change the leader. Unlike in Belarus or Huilostan

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u/OhanaUnited Sep 26 '21

At least your president has years of practice being a "President" before getting elected

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u/j0hnan0n Sep 26 '21

This went way over my head. How can anyone have practice being a thing before they become the thing?

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u/malachi410 Sep 26 '21

Not Ukrainian but I read that prior to being the actual president, he was an actor and played the role of president in a TV show for 4-5 years.

Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volodymyr_Zelensky

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u/AtemporalDuality Sep 26 '21

I just had a look at how horrid Belarus executive branch is… and I don’t understand.

What is with the hating women thing?

Belarus has like no friends internationally, how does he retain power?

When the Vatican gives up on a nation’s leader… you’d imagine that nation had hit rock bottom, as the Vatican is notorious for sustaining relationships with dictators.

Belarus has actually pissed off Pope Francis so far that he wont assign a archbisop to Minsk because he doesn’t want ordain priests to come out of Belarus considering the leadership?

Am I right or wrong on these details?

Your pain is real, that’s for sure.

Wow. Sorry.

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u/drag0n_rage Sep 26 '21

Then you get the UK where our Prime Minister quit right after starting a political crisis.

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u/royal_buttplug Sep 26 '21

If only Miliband hadn’t eaten that bacon sandwich smh.

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u/TheNimbleBanana Sep 26 '21

Isn't Turkey almost a dictatorship at this point?

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u/mrbrownl0w Sep 26 '21

Very autocratic but not a literal dictatorship. Many predict that Erdoğan will lose the next election in 2023.

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u/ta9876543203 Sep 26 '21

I'll believe that when I see it

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u/mrbrownl0w Sep 26 '21

Two biggest cities, İstanbul and Ankara, voted for the opposition parties in the last local elections. Economic crisis and the refugee crisis are killing us. If he's ever going to lose, this is it.

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u/thewordishere Sep 26 '21

Erdogan will just commit fraud.

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u/mrbrownl0w Sep 26 '21

He will surely try. We had to do the last Istanbul mayoral selection twice for him to accept the loss.

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u/irespectpotatoes Sep 26 '21

he cant oppose "decisive" losses if the loss is minimal they can and do steal it but they tried doing that when they lost the local elections in Istanbul by 18k votes and then they claimed foul play, told everyone the opposition "stole the votes", repeated the election and lost by 800k votes the second time so they had to accept it. So he can lose elections, people actually vote for him but he created his own elite by giving all of the government projects to certain people who are loyal to him with outrageous prices and they control like %95 of all news outlets, and we basically elect a king instead of a PM the one on top has all the power so we are not a democracy by any means but elections still kinda work. And if he still does something stupid like cancelling the elections the west will pull out all of the support and with embargoes the country will collapse in a week and he cant keep that up

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u/Beginning_Jelly_8656 Sep 26 '21

istifa da bir hizmettir :(

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u/Gezzoto Sep 26 '21

Japanese PM: I'm incompetent because I couldn't solve the economic crisis, I give up my position.

Serbian leaders: Lmao I only stole tens of millions of euros from the people, I should probably stay a bit more just to be safe after I retire.

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u/joofish Sep 26 '21

most prime ministers were just puppets

Puppets of who?

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u/AvalenK Sep 26 '21

Jesus, they sound like fun bunch.

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u/dudeCHILL013 Sep 26 '21

At one point there was a trend of young working husband's having heart attacks, the trend continued until it got the Japanese government's attention.

Finally it was narrowed down to work stress and it was discovered that while everyone had vacation days. No one was taking vacation days. So now the Japanese government now makes vacation mandatory.

I'm convinced that Japan's economic practices are almost exclusivity based off of cultural values which is different than America's.

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u/GBabeuf Sep 26 '21

Even during COVID there weren't mass lay offs like in the US for example.

This is because in Japan, companies tend to lower everyone's wages rather than do mass layoffs. So unemployment in Japan rarely gets high compared to most other countries. It's also not a useful figure to describe Japan's economic health.

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u/tky_phoenix Sep 26 '21

Yes, the labor market is less volatile for better or for worse. Unemployment rate is one of many indicators when talking about a country's economic health. What criteria would be your go-tos?

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u/legendarygael1 Sep 26 '21

2,8% unemployment rate doesn't reflect a 'healthy' economy. On the contrary one could argue it is a sign labour shortage, which has been an issue for Japan for a long time, it is also one of the reasons it has a difficulty growing it's economy.

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u/Here_for_tea_ Sep 26 '21

Thanks for the explainer

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u/hatebeesatecheese Sep 26 '21

Japan is STILL struggling and doing badly. New plans are initiated and fail every couple of years.

Unemployment rate and size of the economy tell you fuck all. The Inflation rate should be at around 2%. In Japan it was -0.02% last year, 0.48% the year before. That's what Japan's financial issue is about and that is what no-one knows how to solve.

Inflation rates that low are very problematic. Japan's basically been a financial hot topic for the last 30 or so years. So many experts tried and failed, so many good and prominent experts not some losers, no-one can figure it out.

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u/Adunos Sep 26 '21

Why can't they just print more money to cause more inflation?

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u/Przedrzag Sep 26 '21

They tried that, and it somehow failed. Presumably they weren’t aggressive enough, but at this point they probably need to print at Zimbabwean levels to actually cause inflation

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u/GBabeuf Sep 26 '21

If they tried Zimbabwean levels, then the problem would rapidly shift and the cure would be worse than the illness.

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u/tky_phoenix Sep 26 '21

They actually did that. Was one of Shinzo Abe's 3 arrows of his famous Abenomics. Interest rates are low and they are pumping money into the economy. That's usually the standard way to drive inflation but it hasn't worked. They even had negative interest rates for a bit.

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u/KJ6BWB OC: 9 Sep 26 '21

Also Japan has had negative inflation for a while now.

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u/tky_phoenix Sep 26 '21

Inflation has been up and down, hovering around 0% over the last 20 years if I remember correctly. Barely any inflation. I’m trying to explain friends here that they need to invest their money as it’ll otherwise lose value. Difficult to explain that when there is no empirical evidence for a whole generation.

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u/Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX Sep 26 '21

Negative inflation is called deflation.

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u/Living-Complex-1368 Sep 26 '21

They also have a huge demographic problem, the number of Japanese aged 0-9 is literally half the number aged 60-69!

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u/Zergzapper Sep 26 '21

Damn, I now understand why so many young japanese people consider voting a pointless exercise

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u/throwawayhaha2003 Sep 26 '21

Yeah, I also work in finance, and the reasons you cited are why Tokyo has been eclipsed by Hong Kong and Singapore as a major financial center in Asia.

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u/dirty_cuban Sep 26 '21

Japans economy peaked in like 1995 and has been either declining or stagnant since.

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u/LanchestersLaw Sep 26 '21

Japan isnt poor, but they have had trouble growing the economy. At its peak Japan was the 2rd largest economy in the world behind only the United States. Now it is 3rd (behind US and China) in nominal GDP, and 4th in GDP PPP.

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u/Floripa95 Sep 26 '21

Boy how I wish my country had the economy of Japan, crisis and all

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u/Jumbodrl Sep 26 '21

Boy how I wish my countrys leaders would resign when they fail... Our politicians have 0 accountability.

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u/GBabeuf Sep 26 '21

What country are you from?

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u/Floripa95 Sep 26 '21

Brazil. We have the constant crisis, we just don't have the economy

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u/joexmdq Sep 26 '21

Laughs in Argentina

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u/TikiTemple Sep 26 '21

Middle income trap is a bitch

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u/malteaserhead Sep 26 '21

In Japanese culture the person at the top of an organisation takes the blame for everything within their purview, as a result, Japanese PMs resign at the drop of a hat.

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u/talentedtimetraveler Sep 26 '21

Japan and Italy brothers through time

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u/El_Dumfuco Sep 26 '21

Germany broke the Axis

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u/Jccali1214 Sep 26 '21

You could almost call them.... Mario Brothers 😎

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u/silentorange813 Sep 26 '21

Political parties in Japan are not as ideological as other countries. The current ruling party is center right, but there is a wide spectrum of encompassing policies. The PM is just a spokesperson whose job is to keep the approval rating high.

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u/PliffPlaff Sep 26 '21

Other than the economic reasons, there are systemic reasons too, primarily to do with the power of the upper house (the House of Councillors), the link between being party leader in order to be prime minister (party leadership elections are more frequent), and the strong inter-party factionalism.

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u/FireyToots Sep 26 '21

Italy running through PMs like …. Italy would.

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u/YDondeEstanLasLilas Sep 26 '21

It's exhausting. This country is exhausting. The political parties here are exhausting. I don't have the will to keep up with them anymore

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u/Roscoes_Rashie Sep 26 '21

I think Australia is short 1, the 3rd section should be split into 2.

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u/ManOfPaper891 Sep 26 '21

Also giving credit of 2020 to Joe Biden for USA. Biden did not take office until 2021.

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u/miskathonic Sep 27 '21

I assume the chart is marking when the leader was elected, not inaugurated.

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u/secretfulofsaucers Sep 27 '21

Nope, just a little inconsistent. In Brazil's case it's inaugurations only, for example (that's the sole example I have)

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u/System__Shutdown Sep 26 '21

Russia is just Putin, Putin with fake glasses and moustache and then Putin again.

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u/Azrael-XIII Sep 26 '21

Don’t forget “Pladimir Vutin” in there too

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u/rottolo Sep 26 '21

President Nitup

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u/Wasphammer Sep 26 '21

You can't forget fat suit Putin, either!

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u/fast_turtle04 Sep 26 '21

One for Putin should go upwards past Merkel

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u/Reshi86 Sep 26 '21

Titles mean nothing to Russia Putin has been the leader of Russia the whole time.

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u/alice-in-canada-land Sep 26 '21

I was going to say; I can't remember another Russian leader during this time period.

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u/Cheshire_Jester Sep 26 '21

Functionally there hasn’t been.

The middle block for Russia is Dimitri Medvedev. He served as the First Deputy Prime Minister under Putin, was elected President in 2008, Putin then became the Prime Minister under his administration, and when he left the office in 2012, Putin took over as President and Medvedev became his Prime Minister.

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u/Makkaroni_100 Sep 26 '21

In short, he was Putins puppet.

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u/Slanderous Sep 26 '21

Basically did a switcheroo to get around the maximum term laws.

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u/Sigmatics Sep 26 '21

Until he eventually bothered to change the maximum term law

“We aren’t adopting a new constitution, but making significant amendments to it.”

What a nice way to say you'll be longer in office than Stalin

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u/Garr_Incorporated Sep 26 '21

Not as much puppet as a public face for the party. Everyone knew Medvedev was not really the president.

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u/DiDeDoD Sep 26 '21 That Smile

We had a Medvedev's portrait in our school's first floor hallway, and when Putin got reelected, I saw when one of the teachers walked over to it, pulled it out of the frame, and turned over revealing Putin's portrait on the other side of it

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u/WhyJeSuisHere Sep 27 '21

That's just hilarious

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u/revelation60 Sep 27 '21 edited Sep 28 '21

That's a Scooby Doo style mask reveal. It was Putin all along.

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u/ThePreciseClimber Sep 26 '21

Putty's Puppets sounds like a pre-school TV program.

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u/DigitalSterling Sep 26 '21

Ohhh, so it goes Putin-Medvedev-Putin? Is that why there are 3 sections but it only says 2?

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u/Cheshire_Jester Sep 26 '21

Yes.

And even then, it should really be one. Medvedev was nothing more than a placeholder for Putin to get around term limits.

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u/DarkImpacT213 Sep 26 '21

Has to be said that the reason why Medvedev (a close friend of Putin aswell) had to be President in between Putins terms is that Russia has (had?) a 2 consecutive term limit for presidency.

I *think* that the 2 consecutive term limit was abolished by Putin last year or so which is why Medvedev stepped down as Prime Minister iirc, but it could be wrong.

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u/RandomUserName458 Sep 26 '21

No, it was the possibility of the switcheroo that they pulled off, that they abolished last year. But at the same time they declared, that after this amendments to Constitution the president terms start to count from 0 again, so yay, 12 more years of Putin, I guess...

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u/heelstoo Sep 26 '21

Putin is 68 years old. I’m guessing he’ll stay in charge until he dies, and he’s got enough money to live another 20 years.

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u/SuperHighDeas Sep 26 '21

"left office"

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u/Knuddelbearli Sep 26 '21

Dmitri Anatoljewitsch Medwedew?

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u/ptrknvk Sep 26 '21

They only counted Rudd once, like they only counted Putin once.

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u/december-32 Sep 26 '21

Strange they counted his pocket puppy as a separate entity.

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u/ToughGuyEh Sep 26 '21

The German chancellor is elected for 4 years.

The pope is elected for life.

Angela Merkel has seen 3 popes while in office.

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u/DL_22 Sep 26 '21

Not unless you know something about Francis’ impending doom and replacement because JPII died 6 months before Merkel took office.

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u/molym Sep 26 '21

If this is about PM's then Turkey's is wrong. Erdoğan was the PM until 2014 and then Davutoğlu for 2 years and then Binali Yıldırım for 2 years. Erdoğan became the president in 2014. If it's about presidents, then Turkey would have three in this period. Sezer, Gül and Erdoğan.

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u/0_0-wooow Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 27 '21

it should be about the head of state government by law, not the actual one (otherwise russia would have only a single piece). in this case it should be PM until 2018 and then president for turkey. so in the end turkey should have 4 pieces since erdogan wasn't the PM between 2014-2018 and there were 2 different PMs in that timeframe

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u/Kitchner Sep 26 '21

If it was head of state and not head of government in the chart then Britain would be 1 and Turkey would be three, if its head of government than Britain is correct and Turkey should be 3.

The only way this chart is right is if its the OP's interpretation of "leader" which depends on "who runs the country" as opposed to a legal definition, which opens a can of worms.

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u/aykcak Sep 26 '21

who runs the country

Even with that criteria, Russia doesn't work. It should be one solid bar.

This is shit op.

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u/0_0-wooow Sep 26 '21

you think medvedev was running the country between 2008-2012 lol? it was putin too so if turkey is 1 russia is clearly 1 too, if russia is 3 turkey is clearly 4.

in any case between 2014-2018 erdogan wasn't even the leader of AKP, and especially in 2014-2016 when he was the PM davutoglu wasn't exactly erdogan's lapdop, that's why he had to quit being the PM lol.

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u/Gorm13 Sep 26 '21

Should be head of government, as Merkel was never head of state.

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u/nietbeschikbaar Sep 26 '21

Indeed, if you apply the same logic where Russia gets ranked as 3, Turkey should as well.

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u/SoulReddit13 Sep 26 '21

Why does the graph not have a starting date? That’s just poor. And Australia is wrong Rudd should be counted twice so 7

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u/NotFlappy12 Sep 26 '21

Almost all data here is displayed poorly, ironic if you ask me

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u/PreservedInCarbonite Sep 26 '21

Agree, and the Y axis order 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/ptrknvk Sep 26 '21

Putin is also counted as one. But I think it's correct way to do it.

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u/Amsterdamsterdam Sep 26 '21

Didn’t Putin put some stooge in his place for a little while before getting “re-elected” and changing the laws to basically make him czar until he croaks?

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u/tim0901 Sep 26 '21

Yes - that's Dmitry Medvedev who was president from 2008-2012.

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u/SkyDog1972 Sep 26 '21

It looks nice, but there are a few flaws.

This shows things only happening in only exact year intervals.

For example, changes happening on 1/1/2019 and 12/31/2019 (364 days apart) show up the same, but changes happening on 12/31/2019 and 1/1/2020 (1 day apart) are separated by a whole year. This means that there's no way of telling if a country had two changes happen in the same calendar year, as they would be clumped together.

Lastly, the US changes leadership during the year of the president's inauguration, not the year of their election.

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u/Harsimaja Sep 26 '21

And critically Australia misses those because they went through three in one year

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u/pierrebrt OC: 1 Sep 26 '21

I am the author of this vizualisation (for French newspaper Le Monde) in which, using D3.js, I tried to show how remarkably long Angela Merkel has been in office compared to other world leaders (G20 countries).

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u/M-2-M Sep 26 '21

Queen Elizabeth: ‘I’m amused’

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u/Mizerka Sep 26 '21

pretty sure she's been alive for like 300 years at this point

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u/Southwick-Jog Sep 26 '21

Elizabeth became queen in 1533.

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u/MFingAmpharos Sep 26 '21

Damn thought this was a subtle Queen Elizabeth I reference but she wasn't queen until 1558.

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u/Southwick-Jog Sep 26 '21

Oops, I looked at the wrong date.

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u/T-ROY_T-REDDIT Sep 26 '21

Elizabeth: I am the Senate.

Merkel:Not yet!

Elizabeth: It's treason then.

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u/JustLetMePick69 Sep 26 '21

She was queen at the same time as every leader of the ussr except Lenin. 69 years, nice

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u/ennuiui Sep 26 '21

Queen Elizabeth: ‘I’m We are amused’

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u/laserkatze Sep 26 '21

she doesn’t have practical political power and does not need to win elections a a monarch.

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u/Spitshine_my_nutsack Sep 26 '21

We’ve had the same PM since 2010, yet we’ve had multiple monarchs.

The Netherlands btw.

The UK has had 4 different PM’s since Merkel got elected and a single monarch.

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u/Pazcoo Sep 26 '21

Nice graphic, had the reflex to complain that this is stolen from Le Monde :D

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u/kwuhkc Sep 26 '21

I feel it would be more advantageous to the data you are representing, if you extend the y axis so that they show the full terms of other countries' leaders who started earlier than Merkel, but got "cut off" in the graph. Eg for countries like turkey, serbia, china, india on the far right of the chart, its hard to say how merkel compares.

Just my two cents. Nice graphic.

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u/pierrebrt OC: 1 Sep 26 '21

Good idea, I'll try that

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u/MrLegilimens OC: 1 Sep 26 '21

Why not label where your y axis starts though?

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u/EspritFort Sep 26 '21

I don't think you'd usually like to have a description of your career end with "..., just like Erdoğan!", although I believe the Turkey graph might not be entirely correct? I suppose it necessarily makes some compromises with the word "world leader" in mixing up heads of state and heads of government, but I don't think Erdoğan has been in a consecutive single office for that long.

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u/hreloaded Sep 26 '21

Yeah Erdogan was Prime Minister for 3 terms(2003-2014) until he became President in 2014. Until 2018, 2 other Prime Ministers existed but then Turkey went into a system change and got rid of the Prime Minister title. Also 3 terms was the most you can get elected, that's why he changed.

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u/pocketjacks Sep 26 '21

Pedantic, I know, but Biden took office in 2021, not 2020. The US President is sworn in on January 20th in the year following the November election.

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u/MajorTomIT Sep 26 '21

Russia 🇷🇺 strip should be unique. Putin changed formal roles but he is on the chair since 2000.

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u/viezesokken Sep 26 '21 Wholesome

Should’ve included the PM of the Netherlands. He’s been in office since 2010.

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u/santoni04 Sep 26 '21

The post says this includes G20 countries

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u/XanVer22 Sep 26 '21

Mark Rutte, Prime Minister of the Netherlands, is also getting close. He's almost at 11 years of being Prime Minister and we just had elections, so he'll probably get at least to almost 15 years.

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u/xanax101010 Sep 26 '21

Wtf happened in japan before Shinzo Abe?

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u/quequotion Sep 26 '21

Hilarity, really.

I was here in Japan since 2006.

There's no reason for Japan to have a Prime Minister at all. They do absolutely nothing, and then resign for getting nothing done. Abe is actually one of those little blips also and has resigned from the position for "health reasons" twice.

Both times there have also been embarrassing scandals and failed policies hanging over him.

Most of the others resigned over the perception of having failed in their policies or campaign promises, a few may have been scandals. In no case has it affected the running of the Japanese government, which just keeps the status-quo all but forever, only breaking to raise a tax or approve a disaster relief program once in a while.

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u/KTMan77 Sep 26 '21

Has she just done a really good job or is there some sort of gaming the system that she’s done?

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u/ProfTydrim Sep 26 '21

We just reelected her over and over. You can tell how popular she is by the change in support for her party in today's elections. If she ran again, she would've easily won, but now that she's gone it looks like the CDU will not even be biggest party anymore

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u/KTMan77 Sep 26 '21

Cool thanks for the info.

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u/ElectricJeffPierce Sep 26 '21 edited Sep 26 '21

you guys don’t have term limits?

Edit: Why’d I get downvoted for asking a question? Excuse me for not already knowing the structure of Germany’s government

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u/Logeres Sep 26 '21

We do. Two terms maximum for the president, same as the USA. The only difference is, our president is pretty irrelevant politically. The federal chancellorship doesn't have a term limit, but that's normal for parliamentary systems.

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u/VG-enigmaticsoul Sep 26 '21

Parliamentary systems have no term limits since country leaders are determined by who the leader of the governing party in Parliament is.

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u/voidvector Sep 26 '21

Same for equivalent positions in US -- Speaker of the House or President Pro Tempore, as long as 1) they get reelected themselves 2) their party holds the majority 3) their party support them, they can serve as long as they want.

Just in parliamentary democracies, the equivalent position for President has no power.

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u/OrkfaellerX Sep 26 '21

For the chancelor no, for the president yes.

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u/guery64 Sep 26 '21

She has done a great job at staying chancellor. She led the conservative party CDU and her politics were conservative populism in the sense that she had most of the conservative and neoliberal viewpoints of her party, but quickly adapted when public perception of an issue was overwhelmingly against her party line. She raised the minimum wage with the SPD, she opened the parliament for a free vote on gay marriage, she decided not to close borders in the redugee crisis of 2015. All of these were against her usual politics (she even voted and spoke out against gay marriage), but in the end she managed to turn that into good PR with left-leaning voters by switching sides before it harmed her. Most people I know heavily criticize the political program of the CDU, but Merkel did a good job.

Second point, her character. She almost never talks about her private life, stays calm and reassuring. She was not part of any major scandal. She is almost boring, but that also means she is also unattackable. Her behaviour in parliament and in international diplomacy makes her a great first representative. We could all be extremely sure that she would do great and handle the job without constant criticism from the public.

Third, and here I'm not sure if it's a rumour, coincidence or real cool calculation: she tended to remove people in her party who would be a thread to her first position. Not by force of course, but some got promoted into unfavourable jobs, delegated to sidelines, had some scandals revealed, were replaced with other people after some scandal or such. Which is tied a bit to why her party probably does a bad job in today's election: after Merkel announced her retirement, the other candidates were all uncharismatic and unpopular.

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u/morbid_platon Sep 26 '21

Honestly, best thing about Merkel was that you never ever woke up to a headline that said "Merkel did or said some stupid, uncalculated thing and humiliated us all" or "Merkel lied about thing everyone knows she lied about". I'm gonna miss those days.

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u/GorillaJackson Sep 26 '21

Someone should make a version of this but add a bar for the Queen of England so all the other bars just become equally tiny.

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u/Death_and_Glory Sep 26 '21

Shows how unstable Italy is politically more than anything

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u/rbhindepmo Sep 26 '21

They’ve had more PMs in shorter periods of time. See the span of 1985-2000

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u/Chabubu Sep 26 '21

This is a terrible chart layout....

Y axis counts down not up.

Top of chart is not labeled so I have to guess that it starts at 2005.

X axis has Germany on the left with 1 but also China on the right with 1.

Flag label is at the top and not near the x axis count so I have to look at 2 places to get the number and the flag.

Overall interesting data but presentation needs improvement

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u/phoncible Sep 26 '21

That's not china on the far right with one, it's turkey, china's next to it. On that note I'd add that having the country name by the flag would be nice.

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u/cuckoldmathnerd Sep 26 '21

Yeah the Russian one is a lie.

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u/thisisnotdrew Sep 26 '21

Putin is giggling, shirtless on the back of a bear.

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u/Imosa1 Sep 26 '21

Fun fact, Germany also has a president, but nobody really talks about him.

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u/Finchypoo Sep 26 '21

Only getting beat out by a dictator, not bad.

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u/benjarminj Sep 26 '21

Frankly sir, r/shittybarcharts would be a better sub for this. So many annoying faults in the display of the data

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u/Labby92 Sep 26 '21

Meanwhile in Italy finishing one term is a miracle. I don’t know if having the same leader for 16 years is good or bad but it’s definitely better than changing it every 2-3 like we do in Italy.

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u/Shepher27 Sep 26 '21

Longevity in political office isn’t really a virtue.

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u/Vortex112 Sep 26 '21

If they’re popular and win democratically every time it sure is. But hard to separate the dictators from the popular leaders

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